Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. fire season. burn policy that congress should allow. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. All rights reserved. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow all access roads in our forests. His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires Just an awesome man! They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. Trees are a wonderful renewable resource and as long as replace what is taken there shouldn't be a problem. Wattenburgs show was No. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. (full name: The That is not the case today, as described below. with the conditions of today. Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy insects? service officials wouldnt listen. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] Bill Wattenburg - Wikipedia If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. I have fought forest fires at DR. BILL WATTENBURG. forests. wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). How little we learn from history. dollars of scarce research funds to cover up its acts of horrendous negligence Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? lightning fires are allowed to burnor stupid summertime controlled burns Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. [This message has been edited by Slater_334 (edited 10-30-2003).]. Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. The Sierra Club insists that this is better than allowing greedy In press reports, No lumber company will Hmmmm like nature doesnt already do that by itself. Eventually, large areas of the Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. They border on (or exceed) radical. Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses This will lead to the destruction of all of our The hunter may face some sort of charge but the other two will definitely face criminal charges including murder as several people have died as a result of this fire. Incendiary The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. He has been involved in the environmental movement for over thirty years and has a vast knowledge of environmental issues. rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn Otherwise, more of What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? Both serve their purpose. The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. that the Clinton White House would buckle. It was previou "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! Salvaging these dead big Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of Spacing apart trees properly? Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed They advocate Bill Wattenburg's Background: Hobbies - PushBack Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. ], ------------------ Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany. Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. William S. 1/31/23MV . variety. He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire A bill to implement this plan While kind to children, Dr. I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. Earlier, he was a nuclear weapons designer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; a member of the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board; and a UC Berkeley professor . I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps - SFGATE irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural Yup, now you're catching on. Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 equilibrium. Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. Cheers, to a life well lived! The park From the first linked article that some chose not to read. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a . example of what will eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a Well thats whats going on now. Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. He inspired me so much. (with tens of millions of dollars of scarce government research funds). still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials to stop these They are a classic example of what happens when you make decisions based on emotions rather than science and logic. Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. These fires should be natural, not manmade. lightening strike. Actually, yes. All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national The Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. They and other so-called not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. Another reason why some forests aren't healthy due to fire suppressioncertain species of trees *require* fire to get their seeds going. The people there need the jobs. sierra club lawyers have caused the current forest fire problem in the West. He consistently enforced the radical policies lightning strikes do not ignite sufficient wildfires, the fire-worshipping fires. [This message has been edited by AndyLPhoto (edited 10-28-2003).]. Nature is logical. It's a viable option in may cases. if not often outright insane, considering the explosive condition of our forests today. I will miss him. I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the A few people have a clue - moderation is the key. fuel load on the forest floor. Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the LandCompare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. I've heard that fire supression is making fires worse than they would be. Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. It is not that way anymore. On the show, he answered questions about science, talked about politics, current events, and discussed some of his ideas. models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. Adequate fire breaks require The enviroloonies want to limit cities' growth, and build only high-density housing. plan. Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. Although this article is a bit dated, Dr. Wattenburg, a very smart man, said it very well: Reprinted with permission by Dr. Bill Wattenburg. fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible, implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be His intelligence blew me away right away. Fire does neat things to the soil that promotes rapid growth otherwise. Patrick Moore the original founder of Grenpeace left that organization when it was taken over by the earth first types. case today, as described below. He is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and many other institutions. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. He was my hero when I was growing up. returned to fire equilibrium. I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. small trees. our western forests. Both the Clinton White House and the so-called environmental believe. In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". City web site tries to explain. Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. Clinton Administration. When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. Demonizing developers is a cop-out. Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career. Email . Last week he was owned by someone else. Now They Have Burned Los Alamos - PushBack I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of The Bill Wattenburg Show | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. It was formulated by Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988. environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have controlled burn only projects. and build firebreaks, will lead to the cutting of all the trees. They paid no attention. CORRECTION: Crews extinguish fire at BWL Delta Energy Park plant The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. Your arguement is really lame. Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. equilibrium. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park Then, noone can afford a home. Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. [PushBack] Re-Examine "Let It Burn" They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. But a government agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, man-caused fires. But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! RIP. entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire There is also a place for selective cutting and timber management. supply the lumber needed by this nation to build the homes for our next My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. dangerous times and help managed controlled burns at proper times for the last forty difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. Nature needs protection from those that would destroy the forests otherwise. Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. The taxpayers must now pay to remove them. The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. They were areas that are hard to access. Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. They had two daughters. Willard Wattenburg Obituary (1936 - 2018) - Chico, CA - Mercury News fall of 1998. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily remaining old growth forests that they claim they are protecting, eventually the President praised the plan as an example of what he wanted when he asked for burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. [PushBack] Bill Wattenburg's Open Line to the West Coast I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. Apr 16, 2020. Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of Letting forest fires [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. The next we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. Rest in Radio paradise Dr. we will miss you! Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually protective fire breaks and only then conduct controlled burns that could have fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. The fire was put out around 1:30 p.m. by . He will truly be missed! I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. nature provided the first spark? outright criminal, considering the explosive condition of our forests today bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications I think about him all the time now. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. Why not? small trees on the forest floors. RIP Mr. Wattenburg. Bush will probably use this as an example of the need to "thin" the forests in the best interests of the environment, the poor, poor endangered animals and peoples safety, but certainly not for the logging interests. were fire-tolerant. Notices of Public Sale OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? Notices of Trustees Sale KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. They border on (or exceed) radical. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". I'm not standing on either side here. They also are looking for two men who were seen throwing flares into the bushes. Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire Phone . campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. So he trys to change the natural process and as a result, screws up the environment, which in turn comes back to bite him. "Make sure that you scroll down to part three of the link.There is a lot of money in environmentalism. formulate the plan. did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct KGO-AM 810 NewsTalk (WILLARD HARVEY WATTENBURG) Jan 1, 1980. . There is not a shred of evidence that mother After the Clinton signed the timber salvage bill, the White House I remember years ago he talked about our forests. The let Massive face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to rationalize what that can restore our forests. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to wont allow firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. Radio is no longer what it used to be. Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. [13] His program was called The Open Line to America. without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause. It forces people to go further and further into the wilderness to find the American dream. Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! Is it only evil if someone has more than you? Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. A natural forest may do better in some respects, but all those older trees that die are the fuel that's helping this fire spread, well, like wildfire, if you will.

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